Arofanatics Fish Talk Forums  

Go Back   Arofanatics Fish Talk Forums > General Aquatic Forums > AroReefers > Equipment/DIY discussion

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 12-02-2007, 01:33 PM   #1
Steven Lee
Dragon
 
Steven Lee's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Posts: 721
Default Any recommendations???

Hi I need to buy a wave maker for my 422 tank, any good recommendations?
Steven Lee is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 13-02-2007, 06:00 AM   #2
KaLiB
Moderator
 
KaLiB's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Posts: 3,635
Default

Tunze Turbelle series are good. High flowrate and very low power consumption. However, they don't come cheap, easily in the $150-$200 range and above. I own a Turbelle 6060(or 6080, can't rem.), used for 1yr+ no problem encountered at all. The Tunzes are worth investing in if you have the budget as they have controller units along with some of their wavemaker models.

If on budget, the next best choice are the Rio Seios i believe. I can't rememebr the cost but they do cost quite alot cheaper than the Tunze Turbelles. However, the performance is poorer as compared to Tunze. They have a big problem(i don't know about newer batches) when it comes to restarting the wavemaker after power supply is cut. You might have to dismantle and reassemble to get it to work, cleaning maybe necessary to remove dirt/calcium deposits that could have got it stuck. I don't remember the Seio series having had any controllers produced for them. They also consume a little bit more power than Tunze but the advantage is they come in small units(smallest is 2400l/hr from what i know) which the Turbelle(smallest is 6000l/hr from what i remember) series don't.

I own the Rio Seio 620, the only problem i've encountered so far is that the wavemaker often is unable to restart after i've turned it off. I always need to strip it down and re-align the parts or even wash them down to remove any dirt buildup so that the wavemaker can run again.

So ultimately, its really what you need. You can get a mix of both, just a Tunze Turbelle, or just a few Seios. Idea would be to create as much water flow as possible without creating too big a current for the fish or other livestock in the tank. However, i won't advise having multiple Tunze units within the tank as this could create too strong a current flow for both the sandbed and the livestock.

Do note that if you have a fine sandbed(esp. grade 0-2 sand, irregardless if you use Seio or Turbelle), it is highly recommended to put a layer of coarse sand(grade 5 onwards, can mix in some coral chips) on top of the sand otherwise the water from the wavemaker will churn up all the sand and cause a possible LR avalanche.

Tunze Turbelle:
http://www.marinedepot.com/aquarium_...it.asp?CartId=

Rio Seio:
http://www.marineandreef.com/shoppro...ower_seio.html

Wavemakers should be available at most marine LFS, places like Reborn.
__________________
A fishtank is just like your computer. When your tank crash(OS crash), its time to cleanup(reformat hard drive) and setup(install OS) again and add new livestock(re-install software).
KaLiB is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 13-02-2007, 01:11 PM   #3
Steven Lee
Dragon
 
Steven Lee's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Posts: 721
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by KaLiB View Post
Tunze Turbelle series are good. High flowrate and very low power consumption. However, they don't come cheap, easily in the $150-$200 range and above. I own a Turbelle 6060(or 6080, can't rem.), used for 1yr+ no problem encountered at all. The Tunzes are worth investing in if you have the budget as they have controller units along with some of their wavemaker models.

If on budget, the next best choice are the Rio Seios i believe. I can't rememebr the cost but they do cost quite alot cheaper than the Tunze Turbelles. However, the performance is poorer as compared to Tunze. They have a big problem(i don't know about newer batches) when it comes to restarting the wavemaker after power supply is cut. You might have to dismantle and reassemble to get it to work, cleaning maybe necessary to remove dirt/calcium deposits that could have got it stuck. I don't remember the Seio series having had any controllers produced for them. They also consume a little bit more power than Tunze but the advantage is they come in small units(smallest is 2400l/hr from what i know) which the Turbelle(smallest is 6000l/hr from what i remember) series don't.

I own the Rio Seio 620, the only problem i've encountered so far is that the wavemaker often is unable to restart after i've turned it off. I always need to strip it down and re-align the parts or even wash them down to remove any dirt buildup so that the wavemaker can run again.

So ultimately, its really what you need. You can get a mix of both, just a Tunze Turbelle, or just a few Seios. Idea would be to create as much water flow as possible without creating too big a current for the fish or other livestock in the tank. However, i won't advise having multiple Tunze units within the tank as this could create too strong a current flow for both the sandbed and the livestock.

Do note that if you have a fine sandbed(esp. grade 0-2 sand, irregardless if you use Seio or Turbelle), it is highly recommended to put a layer of coarse sand(grade 5 onwards, can mix in some coral chips) on top of the sand otherwise the water from the wavemaker will churn up all the sand and cause a possible LR avalanche.

Tunze Turbelle:
http://www.marinedepot.com/aquarium_...it.asp?CartId=

Rio Seio:
http://www.marineandreef.com/shoppro...ower_seio.html

Wavemakers should be available at most marine LFS, places like Reborn.
thanks for the info bro but can you also tell me which model is suitable for my 422?
Steven Lee is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 13-02-2007, 03:57 PM   #4
KaLiB
Moderator
 
KaLiB's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Posts: 3,635
Default

What models to get would really depend on some factors:
- Type of setup
- Rockscape
- Any sandbed?
These would generally affect how many wavemakers you'll need and the size of each wavemaker.

Example:
I have a Seio m620 in my 2x1x1 but i find that adding 1 more small powerhead or wavemaker would make it better to totally eliminate(or at least 90%)the dead spots. I can afford this as i've got no sandbed in my tank and the tank has plenty of rocks to break the current flow. Whereas if you try adding 2 wavemakers(assuming both m620) to a bare 2x1x1 tank, you could be creating too much water flow for your fish liking.

I would suggest starting off with a single unit of Tunze Turbelle(6000l/hr unit) first and then add on more from there. My guess is you should need at least 2wavemakers, possibly 1x Tunze Turbelle and 1x Rio Seio. 1 way to lookout for deadspots would be areas where detritous and uneaten food accumulates. Good water flow is essential to maintain a healthy system.
__________________
A fishtank is just like your computer. When your tank crash(OS crash), its time to cleanup(reformat hard drive) and setup(install OS) again and add new livestock(re-install software).
KaLiB is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT +9. The time now is 02:53 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Copyright © 2000-2008 Arofanatics.com (Since 30th August 2000)