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Old 11-01-2005, 05:30 AM   #1
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hello broz, it's me making a nuisance of myself again by being a kiasu and kiasee Singaporean. Wondering whether any broz have made that comparison before. Currently in the process of upgrading from 1.5 to 2ft. Future 2ft tank will be running OHF and canister. Current canister has (from bottom to top) coarse sponge, CR(alot), fine sponge then carbon. Like every bro here, trying to have perfect water conditions for our fishes. Heard that trickle filtering works best for media like bioballs coz it allows a oxygen rich environment. If that's the case, would biohome, bacteria house and CR work better in a OHF tray? Has anyone compared whether bacteria house or biohome is better? Also, was reading previous posts about nitrate reduction, intending to have 3 inches of grade 1 and 0 for DSB for denit. Future plan is to keep canister the way it is but the OHF will probably be top layer wool then bottom layer either of the BHs. Sorry if the post is too long but hopefully you bros can give your views, suggestions and ideas?

Main questions:
1) biohome or bacteria house, anyone tried both and compared results?
2) would they function better in trickle or canister?

Thanks broz, keep the constructive views coming
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Old 11-01-2005, 06:01 PM   #2
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since u r using a cannister then 4 get abt the OHF.

IMO, in a cannister, juz place wool, sponge n carbon n wif lots of LRs in ur tk.
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Old 12-01-2005, 05:04 AM   #3
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was thinking about another idea, that is to line my canister output to the OHF box and then just use the power head to generate currents in the tank.
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Old 12-01-2005, 02:10 PM   #4
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was thinking about another idea, that is to line my canister output to the OHF box and then just use the power head to generate currents in the tank.
any reason 4 tat?
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Old 12-01-2005, 03:05 PM   #5
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any reason 4 tat?
coz i'm trying to circulate the more oxygen rich water from the surface to other parts of the tank plus to make sure waste dont accumulate in nooks and crannies? then for the filters part, i guess i just want clean water for my tank
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Old 12-01-2005, 06:41 PM   #6
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I dont know whether I can offer any help but seems like you are caught between OHF and canister (C) and their reliable vis a vis their filter medium.

Any filters working properly basically performs 2 purposes. clean waste [ammonia>Nitrite>nitrate] and circulation/aeration. In biodegration, oxygen is consumed by bacteria during nitrification as well as denitrification. Oxygen level can be enhanced thru water circulation, surface agitation of a large air/water contact(surface area).

So how do we ensure biodegration is adequate? The filter media makes some differences. ideally, u shld use a combination of prefilter material, main filter media(eg. ceramic tubes, pebbles, sponge etc) and some also add activated carbon at the end to absorb any waste the main media cannot remove. Bio-balls are non other than any other inert material which has a surface contact for bacteria to attach on. However, my own experience is that balls are more effective emerged and submerged. By breaking up water in a trickle filter, there is increased oxygen levels which benefit the beneficial bacteria downstream in the filter chambers. In fact, I ve previously noted that in one of my marine tanks, an external bioball trickle column can alone remove all the nitrite when used emersed, with nothing else submerged in teh filter chamber. All there is , is a piece of wool as prefilter. Maybe the live rocks have some bacteria but the point I trying to make is the trickle column adds more oxygen for teh well being of the whole system. Thats why they also call them oxygen chambers of redox reactors or something like?
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Old 12-01-2005, 07:22 PM   #7
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thanks for your view betta, actually, i'm just being kiasu, use canister to filter then wanna use the filter boxes to filter again before the water reaches the tank. The idea of exposing the bacteria growing medium to air is said to increase the efficiency of no2 to no3 conversion coz there is alot of oxygen right?so if that's the case, what i was thinking of doing is to use canister as purely mech filtration(seems like a waste though) and use the filter boxes for finer mech and and bio filtration. which on the sideline i was wondering if any bros tried both bacteria house and biohome and discovered whether one is actually better than the other.

Alternatively, was thinking to run both filters, canister and OHF, so that incase one breaks down, i still have a back up.

If i follow the idea of running the canister filtered water through the filter boxes, i would either 1) use the power head for current generation or 2) probably get lotsa plants in my lower tank, DIY an overflow, hope that the plants bring the nitrate down and use the powerhead to being the water up again

Views from broz? sorry if idea seems quite duh, but like i said, kiasu kiasee, in the end just wanna have the best water i can provide for my fishes.
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