ST or IT ?

Originally Posted by Tustar

waiting fr u to come in

kena red carded lei... but is ok.. i will share..

the tell tale sign of a ST is to look at the final curve bar on the tail bone.. it has to be neat and smooth curve along the curve... (if u get what i am trying to say). also, when ST is unstable or being in the scare mode, the colour in unstable state will be different from those of IT. those who keep IT shd know how IT looks like when unstable.. with patches of tones over the body... as for ST, this will not happen...

due some breeding, 3 bar IT surfaced in the market 2 years back... some seller even tried to make some quick bucks by saying it is a ST.

dun be misled by the thai people, very minimum of them know the differences. I will be at the weekend market on next sunday. I will check it out and let u guys know.

Originally Posted by gold ocean aqua

it's a 100 percent cambodia tiger! don't need to worry!

there is no such naming of tiger as cambodia tiger... just because it is caught from Cambodia... but people have mistakenly take it as cambodian tiger for quite some time. in actual fact, Cambodian tiger and Siamese tiger is the same breed. however, the one in the picture is not a CT or ST.. it is purely a IT.

in simple terms, there is only Siamese tiger, Northern thailand Tiger, American Tiger, New Guine Tiger (how to spell) and Indo tiger.

market shortage of ST is also due to excessive proaching of the ST from the wilds and also a lot of them are in Vietnam aquarium now... no idea why are they keeping so much of them in captive. could be waiting for them to breed.

[itchy]

Originally Posted by nismo83

surely it is an IT.. dun understand why nowadays pple like to say CT...

where are all the tigers kakis 2-3 years ago?

Agreed with u is a IT.

People labelled as CT to sell can sell much higher price than 3 bar IT. Imagine 50$ IT vs $400 CT, if I never remember wrongly the price. Marketing works....

[isa]

Bro YKT thankz for sharing this information regarding this ST or CT or IT. Another forum I came cross about this Dat Pulcher maybe this help :-
http://forums.waterwolves.com/index....ic=123927&st=0

[YKT]

Originally Posted by newiy

uncle ykt, another way is to get them to fish it out of the tank. NORMALLY STs will be stable whenever u try to catch them out. ITs might be stable in the tank but once netted out colour will be flushed but then again i've got extremely stable ITs which do not drop their colour even when caught out, tough choice to make but i would go with IT. check out the middle bar like some bro said earlier. it might be too 'straight'. STs have got slightly more slanted middle bar

Thanks but I had never seen a tank of ITs with every piece being stable, nice lemon yellow with no stress sign. If there is, please let me know and I would like to have them. The rest on bars , etc are subjective as we can only use as a guild. Sometime in human, brothers and sisters also don't look exactly alike.

Originally Posted by swOOsh

IT because centre bar is not tapered like what ST's center bar should be like. Nowadays many ITs have ST tails but the centre bar not just the uneven unstable patches like IT's charateristics are a sure tell tail indicator.

Stir the tank with a net, observe for 15 mins and u will know how they look when unstable.

Also if you keep tigers long enough, u will realize IT dorsal fins are generally longer, narrower and more extended than STs.

My humble observation only

I keep both ITs and STs for long time. The peak time I have 15 pcs of STs but still can't tell the difference.

Originally Posted by itchy

Agreed with u is a IT.

People labelled as CT to sell can sell much higher price than 3 bar IT. Imagine 50$ IT vs $400 CT, if I never remember wrongly the price. Marketing works....

Yes, may be true but how to tell?

Originally Posted by isa

Bro YKT thankz for sharing this information regarding this ST or CT or IT. Another forum I came cross about this Dat Pulcher maybe this help :-
http://forums.waterwolves.com/index....ic=123927&st=0

Thanks ISA, but the ITs look so different in your link. I can tell the differences immediately. It is totall different from the lot I seen in Thailand.

Originally Posted by itchy

Agreed with u is a IT.

People labelled as CT to sell can sell much higher price than 3 bar IT. Imagine 50$ IT vs $400 CT, if I never remember wrongly the price. Marketing works....

sigh... this one msut beware especially from thai... cuz i also kena before.. and somemore is close friend... end up i f him upside down for sending me fake ST...

Originally Posted by YKT

Thanks ISA, but the ITs look so different in your link. I can tell the differences immediately. It is totall different from the lot I seen in Thailand.

JJ market? the standalone shop at the opposite of an aquarium shop? like make shift type.. selling many tigers one... ?

not sure if this can works..


http://s2.photobucket.com/albums/y20...15June2008.mp4

Controvisal Tiger or ST, ur pick..(just as illustration)

*see the last curve small bar at the tail bone..

[Tustar]

Originally Posted by nismo83

kena red carded lei... but is ok.. i will share..

the tell tale sign of a ST is to look at the final curve bar on the tail bone.. it has to be neat and smooth curve along the curve... (if u get what i am trying to say). also, when ST is unstable or being in the scare mode, the colour in unstable state will be different from those of IT. those who keep IT shd know how IT looks like when unstable.. with patches of tones over the body... as for ST, this will not happen...

due some breeding, 3 bar IT surfaced in the market 2 years back... some seller even tried to make some quick bucks by saying it is a ST.

dun be misled by the thai people, very minimum of them know the differences. I will be at the weekend market on next sunday. I will check it out and let u guys know.

to add on my personal view IT has long narrow fan tail as compare to ST, where its fan tail is short but wide at the end

Originally Posted by Tustar

to add on my personal view IT has long narrow fan tail as compare to ST, where its fan tail is short but wide at the end

haha knew u were going to say this one... so many old birds dun know go where..

[azon]

from my source, i was told it's wild caught from Vietnam.. dunno how true..