Before you start a shrimp tank!!

Originally Posted by onlyyouknow

I do not agree with some of the things written.

Its not necessarily true that good quality shrimps are more delicate, you can start with easier to keep shrimps before you move on to more delicate ones. The most important thing is to have a cycled tank with stable water parameters.

The size of the tank depends on the number of shrimps you intend to keep. You can safely keep 50 shrimps(possibly more) in a 2 ft tank if you have good filtration. A smaller tank is harder to maintain parameters but if space is a constraint, then stick to a smaller tank. Just make sure its cycled and proper filtration is applied. The bioload of shrimps are pretty low so if you have plants, there shouldn't be an issue.

I think a chiller is ideal but if you can't afford it, then better stick with shrimps that can deal with a higher temperature. I have kept cherries in a temperature of 30 degrees and they breed like rabbits.

icebabys: everything if, having the best filtration... of cos is ideal, but my tots... many starts with overhead filter for 2 feet and smaller tank. cos better cannister filter specs is for bigger tanks. for 1 feet and smaller tank i can only think of eden 501.... it is also quite impossible to have a chiller with a 2 feet and smaller tank, filter choice to support the chiller will be another issue.

it is also quite impossibe to maintain water perimeters if the tank is small... doing water change in the tank once a week greatly affects the shrimps in a small smaller tank as compared to a bigger tank.

icebabys: The flactuation in shirmp tank is not good at all. what shrimps are u keeping that are breeding like rabbits w/o chiller???? cherries? sakuras?what is the successful breeding rate? 100% all shrimplets grow up to adults?? of cos some will breed even in the worst conditions.... but is that things that we would like to teach newbies? or we guide them with the proper way they should setup a tank?

Originally Posted by ameyaiba

Very good attempt, but there are a number of misleading information inside though its not totally wrong.

Like I would like to point out, 1 feet by 0.8 feet by 1 feet is a good enough size tank to house shrimps. Just that population shouldn't exceed 20-30.

28degree i won't say is the extreme temp for general shrimps, and definitely singapore temperature can easily breed species like cherry, green and some other common shrimps.

So I can only say.. Shrimps are very species dependent and different species requires very different condition, its good to check out the specific guides/threads before attempting any of them cause generalization is often what kills aquatic organisms the most

Read my reply to "Only you know."

Originally Posted by reversebungee

@icebabys: very kind of you to sound warning. I think in many pets, alot pple like to chiong in without considering what is need (time/cash/responsibility). More expr pple (like onlyyouknow) can contribute to it and thus, newbies can read more before deciding to start with the hobby.

Its not surprising many ppl wants to jump into the hobby.... like me in the past.... but for shrimp keeping there are just too many things to consider if u read the sticky. just like keeping a dog... its cute, therefore many ppl just wants to setup a shrimp tank... during that impulsive stage... many dun think of how "deep" this hobby can go... or how sensitive shrimps are.

Originally Posted by ah_ong

Bro I feel that this is only ypur personal feelings? When we set up a small tank means space is limited and not that people cannot afford to start it?

Of cos newibes will check with people who are more experience to see if they are able to keep higher grade of shrimps. Taking me for example, I started with a small tank recent and i check which is better CRS or others? People gave me the comment that to try cherries or saukras are better as they are more hardy?

And the way you write this post as if you are very jealous that people are starting this hobby and jumping straight into buying quality shrimps? And then you write this type of post, it kind of turn people off into starting into shrimp hobby. Instead I feel that you should advise, that if people condsider keeping CRS is a better option to start with a 2ft with full equip like ehim filter and chiller. Moreever a hobby or pet keeping need more new people to be interested in to sustain the keeping.

Next you make newbies sound like they are murderers? Like shrimps life are as important as your own life? Haiz this sometimes may sound right and some people just cannot be bothered? But please do not type this as you sterotype like all newbies are like that.

Lastly I am typing this not to offend anyone, I had met many nice people in this forum who advice me things and also nice sellers for items. But is just that this type of thread is a great turn off for people who wants to even start this hobby. Hope you understand No offences

hi bro, if it means to turn ppl off so that i can prevent shimps death... i am glad i did it.... my purpose is to warn newbies of how sensititve can be, i might as well scold you now, rather than let you waste money, have shimps deaths.... 2 months later u see how difficult it is with water perimeters in a shrimp tank... then u give up hobby totally... waste of money... its like u see dog cute, then buy it for the sake cos u have the money... few months down the road... u wanna give up ur pet....

Originally Posted by Bluebubble

This part I need to disagree. I kept my shrimps in 1 feet nano and my snowball, sakuras and blue shrimps breed like mad until I have to give the shrimplets away and upgraded to 1.5 feet tank that cost my wallet to bleed. The success of shrimps keeping is not about size of tank but water parameters. I have seen many LFS keeping shrimps in a half-feet size tank too. If I am not wrong, shrimps hobby also started in Japan and we know not many Japanese have big space at home, they will want smaller tank to keep shrimps but maintain them in a zen tank look.

Here is the testimony to disagree with your number (2) point.
http://aquasense-aquasense.blogspot.com/

Its nice, its good... but is it ideal? bro.... u all can keep a pet in a container also... no filter and all... they survive... is it ideal condition?

anyway to all new shrimp keepers, dun take this thread negatively...i m just suggesting that u all consider factors that i have listed before starting a tank... if u all have issues with even what i post, u all have not read the sticky.... if u really intend to start a shrimp tank and face problems can also pm me... we share what we learn together...

Last but not least i emphasize i encourage shrimp keeping... just read up and think about it before commiting.

[ah_ong]

Originally Posted by icebabys

anyway to all new shrimp keepers, dun take this thread negatively...i m just suggesting that u all consider factors that i have listed before starting a tank... if u all have issues with even what i post, u all have not read the sticky.... if u really intend to start a shrimp tank and face problems can also pm me... we share what we learn together...

Last but not least i emphasize i encourage shrimp keeping... just read up and think about it before commiting.

haha Thanks Bro no offences ah me also learning and of cos i want to learn from u too. The more the merrier Cheers Bro

[onlyyouknow]

Originally Posted by icebabys

icebabys: everything if, having the best filtration... of cos is ideal, but my tots... many starts with overhead filter for 2 feet and smaller tank. cos better cannister filter specs is for bigger tanks. for 1 feet and smaller tank i can only think of eden 501.... it is also quite impossible to have a chiller with a 2 feet and smaller tank, filter choice to support the chiller will be another issue.

it is also quite impossibe to maintain water perimeters if the tank is small... doing water change in the tank once a week greatly affects the shrimps in a small smaller tank as compared to a bigger tank.

icebabys: The flactuation in shirmp tank is not good at all. what shrimps are u keeping that are breeding like rabbits w/o chiller???? cherries? sakuras?what is the successful breeding rate? 100% all shrimplets grow up to adults?? of cos some will breed even in the worst conditions.... but is that things that we would like to teach newbies? or we guide them with the proper way they should setup a tank?

I dare not say I'm an expert or even anything close to it. This is basically my experience in keeping shrimps all these years. There is no real ideal environment since keeping parameters constant itself is a challenge. But if the shrimps are surviving and breeding, I guess that is good enough for them.

Originally Posted by icebabys

Its nice, its good... but is it ideal? bro.... u all can keep a pet in a container also... no filter and all... they survive... is it ideal condition?

I regret changing to bigger tank, half my shrimps almost wiped out. Besides, my tank might be small but it has all the facilities intact - you painted too negatively on smaller tank which can work wonders in many ways. Shrimps are not dogs or cats, their size is too small relatively to our tank and equivallent to an executive flat for dogs or cats. Of course having a bungalow for them is ideal like you said, but that should not stop people from keeping shrimps as passtime hobby.

Originally Posted by Bluebubble

I regret changing to bigger tank, half my shrimps almost wiped out. Besides, my tank might be small but it has all the facilities intact - you painted too negatively on smaller tank which can work wonders in many ways. Shrimps are not dogs or cats, their size is too small relatively to our tank and equivallent to an executive flat for dogs or cats. Of course having a bungalow for them is ideal like you said, but that should not stop people from keeping shrimps as passtime hobby.

May i ask did u do the neccesary before moving your shrimps?

Wat was the water perimeter in the bigger tank when you moved them?

Did you cycle your new tank?

I am not stopping ppl from keeping shrimps as a hobby. Smaller tank are in actual fact not suitable. I do not advise newbies to use it.

Shrimps are not cats and dogs. But i respect life. Do you?