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Old 18-03-2011, 11:32 AM   #11
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i think the key is balance and not over dosing. There're some concerns over the ferts you are using because one of the item is copper. But if you look closely it is 0.00xx%.

I don't use CO2 and recently i started using Excel because of algae problems. I dose about 2 caps every alternate days. My CRS tank has SS-SSS+ shrimps and breeding with shrimplets. My plants seems to be better looking.

To be fair, i'm not sure about flourish and phosporus. But i still think as long as you follow the instructions and don't overdose. And i believe in SEACHEM website, they mentioned, if there's issues, you can do a 20-50% water change.
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Old 18-03-2011, 11:38 AM   #12
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20%- 50% water change is alot wor.
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Old 18-03-2011, 11:55 AM   #13
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20%- 50% water change is alot wor.
Haha ya lor, later all life stuff all up lorry..... especially CRS 50% water change sure liao one.... maybe they mean WC for normal fishes I guess
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Old 18-03-2011, 12:04 PM   #14
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20%- 50% water change is alot wor.
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Haha ya lor, later all life stuff all up lorry..... especially CRS 50% water change sure liao one.... maybe they mean WC for normal fishes I guess
Agreed too much water change for shrimps.....
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Old 18-03-2011, 01:31 PM   #15
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this case they have to think, plants important or their shrimps more important. you can't possiblely have the best of both world. CRS are very sensetive due to their small gene pool. whats flavourable to plants not equal flavourble to CRS. unless you able to balance them very well ( which is very difficult )
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Old 18-03-2011, 10:24 PM   #16
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tat sounds good to me..n MAYBE,instead of using ferts,use a bit of CO2??i think most of d bros here r using CO2 instead of ferts..juz ask around wif d bros here,they r more tan willing to help u on tis..me,i'm juz a newbie..sorry tat i can't be of any help..
No worries bro, i believe that the expert/ lao jiao will more than willing to gv the appropriate advice. But if u are like wat u say, u are indeed remarkable as true friend. Someone who knws little but will go all out to help in his best ability.

Cheers. My fren
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Old 18-03-2011, 10:25 PM   #17
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20%- 50% water change is alot wor.
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Haha ya lor, later all life stuff all up lorry..... especially CRS 50% water change sure liao one.... maybe they mean WC for normal fishes I guess
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Agreed too much water change for shrimps.....
See.... thats the remarkable power of forums. Learnt something new again. Cheers to all
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Old 18-03-2011, 10:29 PM   #18
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this case they have to think, plants important or their shrimps more important. you can't possiblely have the best of both world. CRS are very sensetive due to their small gene pool. whats flavourable to plants not equal flavourble to CRS. unless you able to balance them very well ( which is very difficult )
I think it is possible but EXTREMELY hard to strike a fine balance. Nevertheless, since i had set up the plant tank and intention is to have CRS in it, I will continue to read up and get the water right b4 intro the fellows.(Did something similar to my guppies tank and was too eager to intro the fish. Result was dozens up the lorry, learnt this lesson thru hard ways and is determine not to let it happen to my CRS tank)
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Old 18-03-2011, 10:49 PM   #19
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Heehee. For your info, even for the NASA scientist, they once build an eco system for human inhabitation (enclosed). Even using super computer to help control every single thing, they still fail. What i believe in one thing is, change the environment to suit you, not change yourself to suit the environment.
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Old 18-03-2011, 11:07 PM   #20
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Heehee. For your info, even for the NASA scientist, they once build an eco system for human inhabitation (enclosed). Even using super computer to help control every single thing, they still fail. What i believe in one thing is, change the environment to suit you, not change yourself to suit the environment.
Hahaha.. is it? nevertheless, my friend jus pop by and after taking a look at my tank, he tells me to remove the tiger lily as it needs iron to grow red. He mentioned all my plants does not required dosing of ferts. So tml will do a 100%WC and let it cycle again. Will continue doing this every week for 1mth and all shd be okay.
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