Losing the fire

This is my Fire-Red only tank. No other shrimps. 1st generation of shrimp is darker and more intensed in color. 2nd generations onwards are so orangey.. the shrimplets also have the orange colors when they were little. Now I wonder whether they are truely fire red in the market. Should have kept sakura.

1st Generations


2nd Generations

[globalcookie]

You are using SOIL?!? Soil lower pH! Is that the cause? Find the source of problem (which could be your water perimeter) than firstly faulting the source of shrimp

[Hershley]

thats a lot of shrimps ... check ur water perimeters first

[bettafantastic]

Beautiful shrimps.
Like the 3rd photo, many shrimplets!
Btw I think the shrimps becomes less intense got to do with the water.
You do water change?

[Navanod]

Nothing's wrong with using soil IMHO.

The fire red gene is not a stable gene. Heavy culling is required to maintain the colony as red as possible.
That 1st gen fire red you got? That's probably the best 20% from a giant breeding farm.

If you think getting fire red is hard, try getting painted fire reds!

Originally Posted by globalcookie

You are using SOIL?!? Soil lower pH! Is that the cause? Find the source of problem (which could be your water perimeter) than firstly faulting the source of shrimp

my PH is 6.5 also red red.....check other water parameters...

[saddyboi]

i think its normal for the generations to lose it color after sometime.. have to keep adding new ones...

btw what is the plant in the first picture?

Originally Posted by globalcookie

You are using SOIL?!? Soil lower pH! Is that the cause? Find the source of problem (which could be your water perimeter) than firstly faulting the source of shrimp

Originally Posted by Hershley

thats a lot of shrimps ... check ur water perimeters first

I thought shrimps like lower PH and I don’t have other measurement kits to find the parameter. As long as they didn’t die I am happy liao.

Originally Posted by bettafantastic

Beautiful shrimps.
Like the 3rd photo, many shrimplets!
Btw I think the shrimps becomes less intense got to do with the water.
You do water change?

I don’t change water for at least one month to two months since the water is clear due to the B.Bacteria. Only top up water every two days.

Originally Posted by Navanod

Nothing's wrong with using soil IMHO.
The fire red gene is not a stable gene. Heavy culling is required to maintain the colony as red as possible.
That 1st gen fire red you got? That's probably the best 20% from a giant breeding farm.

If you think getting fire red is hard, try getting painted fire reds!

How to cull them, I have few hundreds of them in my 1.5footer (not including the shimplets) and where to get the painted fire red?

Originally Posted by saddyboi

i think its normal for the generations to lose it color after sometime.. have to keep adding new ones...
btw what is the plant in the first picture?

Not sure what that plants is. I bought from Y618 with the stalks. But after sometime, the plants crawl on the soil like weeds. .

[cutedragon]

Originally Posted by globalcookie

You are using SOIL?!? Soil lower pH! Is that the cause? Find the source of problem (which could be your water perimeter) than firstly faulting the source of shrimp

if keep shrimp can't use soil in the planted tank??

[globalcookie]

Originally Posted by tachyon

my PH is 6.5 also red red.....check other water parameters...

There are many possible reason, soil (lower pH) is one possible reason, not definitely but one possibly.

Originally Posted by Bluebubble

I thought shrimps like lower PH and I don’t have other measurement kits to find the parameter. As long as they didn’t die I am happy liao..

Maybe you want to read the stickies and see the range of shrimps and the preferred pH. But, as you said, as long as they didn't die, you happy liao. Than don't be too bothered.

Originally Posted by cutedragon

if keep shrimp can't use soil in the planted tank??

Don't get your question. You are asking,
(1) keep shrimp can't use soil, or
(2) can't use soil in planted tank?

Again, read the stickies on preferred pH for different shrimp spieces. As some would know, soil lowest pH (quite a few other things does too) unless the soil is old and lose it's lowering ability.

Plants can survive without soil. My previous setup in office was on quartz and my plants thrived. My current setup (same tank) is converted to soil and plants are doing just as well.

What cause plants to do well or die (or minimal growth)? Lights among the few factors.