Recommendations for new CRS project

Originally Posted by highlander_den

Hi to all bros and CRS guru,

I am considering to keep CRS. If that is going to happen, I will most likely setup a 2ft tank to keep them. And I need advice and price quotation. Kindly help me with the following pricing. Appreciate your help in advance.

1. Cannnister filteration
2. Mosses
3. ADAsoils
4. Chiller
5. 2ft tank

Can anyone let me know the prices of the above items?

And, for mosses, do I need to introduce CO2 into the tank for them to grow better?

That's all I have to ask for now, after browsing through most of the post regarding CRS here in AF.

1. Cannnister filteration
- $100: Atman brand CF-800 enough

2. Mosses
- $10: 2 tubs Taiwan Moss

3. ADAsoils
- $45: ADA Amazonia 2

4. Chiller
- $300++ (China brand like Hailea or Resun)

5. 2ft tank
- $25

All are first hand price. You can get cheaper by buying from the bros here.
Approx total : $480++

To all CRS Bros & Guru out there,

I have been browsing through CRS related posts and thought I might be doing a breeding of CRS project. While considering, I need more info and knowledge before commiting.

I plan to get the following:

1) 2ft tank
2) Eheim Cannnister filteration
3) ADA Amazonia 2 (Soil)
4) Chiller
5) Mosses

Can someone recommend which model of Eheim Cannnister filter is best for 2 ft tank?

Also, what brand for Chiller?

Last but not least, can someone list out the prices for the above items?

Thanks.

[ymmij]

for a 2 feet tank, if you are keen in eheim, you could consider 2213. price wise is estimated at $85 - $90.

Originally Posted by ymmij

for a 2 feet tank, if you are keen in eheim, you could consider 2213. price wise is estimated at $85 - $90.

I would go for 2213, $85 so far the lowest I have seen.
Chiller, Resun CL280 $280.

[ymmij]

for chiller wise, i do not have any at the moment so i have no experience to comment much.

but based on my conversation with some lfs owner like c328 and y618 who are selling crs, they would advise me to get us/european brands like arctica and not china brand. their reasons are as follow:

1. the amount of wattage stated in the model of a china brand chiller like resun cl280 uses 280w of power and cl650 uses 650w of power,

2. arctica for example uses much less power. so this is about energy efficiency.

3. warranty issue. most us/european chillers come with 2 to 3 years of warranty as compared to china brands that come with 1 month or 6 months max 1 year depending on where you buy the chiller.

4. reliability. you want to get something you can depend on and the possibility of failure is lower.

5. technology. for now, the china chillers still lack behind in technology as compared to its counterpart. that explains the energy efficiency part. on top of that, the servicing is more convenient.

6. price. this is the killer for us/european brands for the price for a similar range of chiller is about 3 to 4 times that of its china friend.

the arguement is that is it worthwhile to pay so much higher for a us/european chiller as compared to a china made one. i could change a china chiller every 2 to 3 years and it may even be cheaper than getting one us/european chiller.

maybe those bros who have both us/european and china made chillers could comment on the various pros and cons and give more practical advice.

it is basically up to inidividual...

[Arolee999]

Add on some cost for your CRS project.

Filter media will cost quite a lot if you choosing bio home or bio home plus as your media.

Lighting is also needed for the moss and shrimp.

You also need to consider to buy some test kits like ammonia, nitrite, nitrate, PH etc....

Last one will be the SHRIMP!! CRS.....depends on what grade are u looking at.

[Natureman]

Is Hailea chiller based on German technology but build in China?

Originally Posted by Natureman

Is Hailea chiller based on German technology but build in China?

yes..haha.

Wow, that's a whole lot of info.

Thanks a lot!!

[EvolutionZ]

ermm.... anyone knows rougly whats the first hand price for hailea HC150a chiller?
thanks..